On this week's Bobcast, Chris sits with Ben Hatch based in Braintree, Essex. They talk about such stuff as Monumental Cock-ups, wanting to spend money as opposed to needing to, reluctance to try new systems, and the paperwork side of running a business.

So you know the score by now, get a brew (or alcohol), pin back your lugs, give it a listen, and give us (@brothersofthebrushinsta and Ben) your feedback by hash-tagging # brothersofthebrushpodcast or # bobcast on Insta and well give you a shout-out back!